[7:30] Wichard Wisent: I don't see the need to "true" to have knowledge.
[7:30] Elfed Helendale: Thanks Wawrick. This just supports my earlier comment about justification needing to be contested.
[7:31] Elfed Helendale: Wickard, I agree. The knowledge might be wrong though
[7:31] Wichard Wisent: And in the mental operations finding "true" seems impossible.
[7:31] Elfed Helendale: yes
[7:31] Marianne Thespian: But why should you find 'true' Richard, we are doing metaphysics not epistemology
[7:31] Wichard Wisent: So we're always in danger of being "wrong" but I'm OK with that
[7:32] Elfed Helendale: So, we can never be certain we have true knowledge. The best we can do is hone our justification by contesting it
[7:33] Wichard Wisent: I agree with you, Elfed
[7:33] Shak Maroon: Elfed, I'm sure this is the wrong way to look at the question. It makes it harder!
[7:33] Marianne Thespian: Aaargh! We are not talking about how we can KNOW we have knowledge, but what counts AS knowledge!
[7:30] Elfed Helendale: Thanks Wawrick. This just supports my earlier comment about justification needing to be contested.
[7:31] Elfed Helendale: Wickard, I agree. The knowledge might be wrong though
[7:31] Wichard Wisent: And in the mental operations finding "true" seems impossible.
[7:31] Elfed Helendale: yes
[7:31] Marianne Thespian: But why should you find 'true' Richard, we are doing metaphysics not epistemology
[7:31] Wichard Wisent: So we're always in danger of being "wrong" but I'm OK with that
[7:32] Elfed Helendale: So, we can never be certain we have true knowledge. The best we can do is hone our justification by contesting it
[7:33] Wichard Wisent: I agree with you, Elfed
[7:33] Shak Maroon: Elfed, I'm sure this is the wrong way to look at the question. It makes it harder!
[7:33] Marianne Thespian: Aaargh! We are not talking about how we can KNOW we have knowledge, but what counts AS knowledge!
